Theres no limit to what God CAN do, but there are limits to what He WILL do. For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. Its the established position of Scripture and the witness of millions of faithful Christians throughout history: God CAN heal, but He might not and we dont have the power to override His decisions. Its important to keep our eye on the actual question at hand. Let me know if you have any questions. This is wrong, per Romans 14 and I would suggest that its often actually sin. Was honored during Pastor Appreciation Month 2015 with a 3-minute rap-and-dance video starring Elevation staffers. And without the necessary attitude described above, we are apt to fall for the logic of those who are disingenuous, self-seeking teachers who take advantage of the flock. Start Smaller. Lets pretend for a moment that youre right, though. Can You Go to Heaven if You're Not Baptized? He has a master of divinity degree from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. Iron really cant sharpen iron without friction. They interact with one another because they are distinct from one another, as you and I are. Finally: we who follow Jesus should not consider false teachers our enemies. Singular: just like in English, the number of subjects that the verb applies to. These friends and mentors, who lead big churches like Elevation, set his salary, which Furtick won't divulge. God isnt morphing like a CGI character from one state of being into another. Ive been wondering why people say hes a false teacher. [23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli. In the same sermon, speaking of Jesus ascension into Heaven, Furtick said this: and now Jesus is taken from their sight, and hidden in a cloud, but he did not leave. John Rice associated with some he didnt agree with as long as they professed Christ as Savior. May it never be! If our lack of faith prevented Him from acting, then nobody could be saved ever. Steven Furtick Ministries is a ministry of Elevation Church, a non-profit 501 (c) (3) corporation, and all gifts are tax-deductible as allowed by law. We are talking about Furtick as a teacher and his interpretation of Matthew 13:58, yet Matthew Henry is a teacher, and said the very same thing, will you draw him into this category too? ), 7. Furtick is simply pouring his own meaning into the words you might hear at the church you grew up in. He wasnt referring to the gospel of John, or the epistles of John, either. Well, we know everything is made up with molecules (atoms with protons and neutrons), but to say God is a molecular structure does not fit, as the word does say clearly; all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist (all things hold together, in many translations), Colossians 1: 16. Sure, we know that there is only one God. When Jesus spoke, it was not the Father speaking through Him. No. I dont believe youre making a mountain out of a molehill. Myles Munroe is a good example, and you can see that. The impulse to fake it is completely understandable but deception is not a valid church growth strategy. When people do that, we put them on medication. Although each member of the Trinity serves different functions, they each possess equal power and authority. Im less likely to trust anyone who makes a point to call another out in this fashion. The fact that something is IN the Bible doesnt mean its an instruction from God. (Un)Qualified: How God Uses Broken People to Do Big Things. Don't surrender in the middle of the struggle.In "Been Here Before," Pastor Steven Furtick encourages us to hold fast to hope because God is with us in whate. First, we know that there is only one God. Im well, thanks. Can a man present the gospel that may be doctrinally incorrect on other matters ? Teaching that reading about Jesus is anything like reading about ourselves goes too far. He is wrong about the Trinity. That does NOT mean that its okay to add to, or to take away from, ANY passage of Scripture. Think Furtick problem maybe just being ignorant of the word, proud. Have a great day! Rather than praying for me, or finding Scriptures to show that what Ive written is false, youve attacked me. "They'd come and they'd go, 'Is this the youth group? The simple truth is that I dont want you to trust me, Ryan. Do you tell immature believers, or impressionable non-believers, that they should take the good and ignore the evil? I just want the truth which I believe I can only find through prayer, study and revelation. Thats not good. By the way: Leviticus 15 doesnt even come close to suggesting that the woman was under threat for breaking the law. Jude 1:3-4. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: I amhas sent me to you.. Fried chicken, cornbread and cake what brings you back to this Charlotte restaurant. Greek verbs communicate 5 different things: tense, voice, mood, person, and number. This is an entirely unbiblical idea, condemned throughout all of church history as heretical. Church is changing too quickly because of the influence of these false teachers. Perhaps it is a topic worthy of a post for you sometime, if youve not already posted about it. Steven and Holly are blessed with three children; two sons, Elijah and Graham, and a daughter, Abbey. Many years later, the Son became a human. With respect, I dont really care if you feel things are unequal between me and those who comment on my website. I have no idea what goes on in his head, but I do know that he teaches things that contradict Scripture indisputable things. You seem to think that the power is in US that speaking those words is what saves us. The disclaimer especially. Thanks. One of the most common problems among false teachers today is that they change the focus of the gospel from God to humanity. Every word that came out of His mouth was the Father speaking. 4044). No, all these scripture above are contrary to your saying; our lack of faith cannot prevent Him from acting if He wants to just does not fit. Hang in there, Nicole. Furtick is the proud son of Larry Stevens Furtick (father) and Faith Furtick (mother). I hope that you wont take my word for it, Kathleen. Itll only take a moment: why was Paul never healed? Study the Scriptures. This seems to figure in the trapped in their perspective of he could not, as what is the difference between could and did if it does depend on our faith which comes by hearing the word? As apologists it can be tough not to throw stones when we see raw contradictions to scriptures. Dont trust yourself. Political Party: Ethnicity: Religion: Income: Net Worth: Relationship: Kids: He created laws, then needed to break them because He didnt foresee the circumstances that would require Him to break the law. We would be saying what Scripture itself does not say, and we should avoid that. I appreciate your input: too many simply condemn people for being unbiblical, or heretical, without actually pointing to what they teach. In case anyone wonders whether Furtick misspoke, theres more. I will try this and possibly get back with you when I get his response! I only do so because people write to me and ask whether this teacher or that teacher can be trusted. He didnt know about making disciples, as the KJV only says to teach and doesnt say make disciples. When we walked through some other New Testament verses about discipleship, he was grieved. I am struck by how several people irresponsibly and incorrectly used various verses or created their own paraphrases around the concept of judging, knocking you for judging. And, each person that commented with something to that effect seemed emotional, whereas other comments of disagreement seemed more calm rational theological discussions. If a man is labeled as a false teacher and not only a weaker brother , can he possibly be a child of God. Rather than having a biblical perspective, they teach what is essentially magic. We CAN say, with some confidence, that those who led them astray were probably not born again they were trying to pervert the gospel. Im very comfortable with that. I always wonder what they do with the verses about Jesusbaptism where all three members of the Trinity are present at one time. As for not judging, you might take the time to look up the passage in question. You inspire me to work harder to be encouraging, so youre awesome. I have questions, and I hope you can take a deep breath and answer them clearly. Yes, youre setting him up. But also, I think many teachers, Pastors, etc. #3 is what came to mind when you said bad things are bad, never good. Thank you for Narcigesis! Real-time updates and all local stories you want right in the palm of your hand. Built on a burial ground, Norfolks Basilica of St. Mary houses over 100 years of Black history. Thanks. 9:23,24. There are plenty of Scriptures to indicate that God may respond to us based on our actions, or our faith. Its good that I leave in physical form because then I can give you in spiritual form, then I can direct you from a deeper place.. This belief isnt like saying that children should be baptized, or like thinking that Christians would be better off being kosher. It ALSO teaches that the Spirit in us is Christ in you, the Hope of Glory. With respect, youve mischaracterized me in an important way. Jesus said the HolySpirit proceeds from the Father. I do not do this lightly, but it is necessary. It makes the most sense to apply it to Revelation, as it IS a book of prophecy. The miracles of Jesus bore witness to His identity as the Son of God, but the people in Nazareth had rejected Him. and this Christians power is not his own, as after God used Peter to heal a lame beggar, the apostle explained to astonished onlookers that the man was healed not by Peters own power but through faith in the name of Jesus Christ: Fellow Israelites, why does this surprise you? Both of us having what I would describe as a crisis of faith. A defining feature of most Word of Faith teachers is known as the little gods doctrine. This is not the God of the Bible, its someone else entirely. Steven Furtick went about his get-ready ritual in a camper parked outside. Furtick, Steven (2012). So: while we cant understand the trinity, we CAN explain what the Bible says about God. Will you do yours? God saves us in response to our acceptance of His offer of salvation. Healing comes not from the outside in, it comes from the inside out. I get why these actually misdescribe the Trinity and are ultimately unhelpful. It sounds like youre ready to help fix things too, which puts a smile on my face. The question is whether Steven Furtick was RIGHT or WRONG when he claimed that Jesus wanted to do more (seems reasonable) but WAS THWARTED (utterly heretical). Oneness theology is 50% biblically orthodox. Have a great day! Now it's your turn to get dunked, he told the crowd, wheeling out a cart loaded with shorts, T-shirts, flip-flops, sports bras, boxers and more. I dont have a definitive answer. And from what you have quoted, has definitely made some statements that go beyond Scripture. The book of Revelation was, when written, not part of the Bible. Dont get me wrong: it has always been inspired Scripture. So it cant apply to the whole Bible, or even to the whole New Testament. Give him time to think about what hes telling you, to review it in his mind. Elevation Church pastor Steven Furtick - "Pastor Steven" to his ever-growing flock - launched his Charlotte church in 2006. For the wages of sin is penance, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Thats the ONLY reason Ive written about people like Steven Furtick people CAN be deceived, ARE BEING deceived, and Christians are called to contend for the gospel. He asked seven couples to go with him and his wife, sell their homes, and move to a yet unknown city, with no promise of pay. This is false and ridiculous. Thats part of why Ive decided, after 24 years of having online discussions about Jesus, to go ahead and write about false teachers: so many have simply been deceived. I hope youll take all of this in the spirit in which it was written: from one brother to another, with respect, and even a little fun. Can we say they werent born again? Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. Like you, Ive found that most critics online are just kind of griping about people they dont like, or repeating someone elses accusations. You say, it is not a logical and biblical explanation that He chooses to act under certain circumstances, and to not act in others, as God is not the author of confusion. With respect, you really havent thought this through. Thanks. Youre asking for advice, rather than advising. Of course, youve already made up your mind. But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Pastor Steven Furtick (left), of Elevation Church, and Pastor Terrell Murphy, of New Birth Charlotte, pray together before a large crowd at the close of a shared service for the two churches at. (Furticks parents named him Larry Stevens Furtick Jr.), 2. When people defend false teachers and repeat their errors, thats bad too right? Faith, they claim, brings power. The only legitimate claims of modalists on this topic are the ones on which everyone agrees: there is one God. Remember Jesus words about the sower, and the four kinds of soils. He enables us to believe. All rights reserved | Privacy Policy. If not, then you would agree that Furticks statement about Gods nature is wrong. Its important, again, to keep in mind the claim thats being addressed. Furtick and his wife built a home on 19 acres of land in Waxhaw, North Carolina, a suburb of Charlotte in 2013. There's also the cool factor, stoked by a marketing-savvy Elevation staff of flip-flop-and-T-shirt-wearing twentysomethings. Unfortunately, its in stark contrast to Scripture. "I saw potential (with) the number of people moving here," Furtick said. They represent the consensus view of all of Scripture, old and new. Typically, oneness folks will cut and run when asked to defend their view. Dont bother telling me how this person or that person helped you. That seems important, doesnt it? He did not pursue what was gain to him and he left the benefits of his heritage and education behind in order to know the Lord and the power of His resurrection, to be made conformable to His death. Second, Im supremely confident that you will agree with these statements correct me if Im wrong: If you agree with those things, then the only thing left for you and me to figure out is whether Steven Furticks teaching actually DOES contradict Scripture right? Especially when you can see the iron (microscopic amounts) from one transferring to the other. If you can provide evidence that one of these people has recanted their false teaching, please let me know. (Now ubiquitous on bumper stickers all over Charlotte, the logo represents the resurrection of Christ.). Heres the point: the text does not say that Jesus ability to work miracles was in connection with, or in proportion to, or directly dependent on their state of mind. I wouldnt think so, but thats the result of what youve written. Frankly, I doubt it. God cannot sin, but we certainly can. This makes no sense, of course but it does help Furtick set up more on the little gods doctrine. Other translations, using thousands of additional ancient and biblical manuscripts, render it differently. Maybe I am just missing it. Most people get defensive about things, and dig their hole even deeper. Clearly, modalism contradicts Scripture. For mature, well-educated believers, there is less danger than for others. Please: take some time to consider throwing the baby out with the bath water. The clearest example I can think of is when I see Christians rejoice when a baby is conceived outside of marriage while ignoring the sin that caused it. And my God will convict you let you know the word is right or the word is wrong.. That is why we have the Holy Spirit when you discern what is right in the world and what is wrong in the world you are led by the spirit of God I disagree with you I believe that you are wrong doctor you are a fake preacher you should not get on this Social Media stuff and tell people things that you really dont know. The Elevation Church had its first service on 5 February 2006. WE DO NOT SAVE OURSELVES. Thanks. Wommack, like every other Word of Faith teacher, claims that the power is in us, that we are the ones who determine whether were healed, and that God has already provided healing for all believers but we have to manifest it by faith. Future tense: just like in English, points to an event that will, or might, happen in the future. See for yourself what the Bible says. Id be happy to help! All three took part in creation. Here are the benefits: If your father is a modalist, youll find out rather quickly. But it and the other quotes slide perilously close. He changed its meaning to make a point that doesnt appear in the text or in any text. . All of Revelation? There are two primary ways that people interpret Scripture. The most proper method is known as exegesis, or reading out of Scripture. 2 Timothy 1:7 For example, the Father sent the Son (1 John 4:14). Let me know if youre in. Notice that I did not say separate, but distinct. Some oneness folks think that the doctrine of the Trinity is that there are three separate beings who are God. We should do certain things, and not do other things, because they are in concert with Gods character or contrary to Gods character. Is it possible to recognize anothers errors without being jealous? Job, in, Nothing will be impossible with God. Claiming that Jesus didnt do many miracles because God wanted lots of reasons to judge unbelievers simply goes too far, in my opinion. Sure, Ballard Christian. I believe it means all of Scripture and think these false teachings are adding to Scripture. Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. Its rare to see a young man like Steven Furtick living in a 15 million dollar home with several astronomically priced vehicles in this day and age. In that case, your complaint seems irrelevant. People who are unwilling are often, in my experience, not actually interested in following Jesus closely. Thank you for this clarity and God bless. She didnt do anything wrong but there were consequences for the people she touched. It is false to teach that God is a multiple personality being. I mean plainly and obviously do you believe that God is ever POWERLESS to do what He wants in any given situation because your decision RENDERS Him powerless? Encouraged by his wife, Holly, he decided to make his move. It seems reasonable to conclude that Jesus healed some because they had faith and wanted to be healed, and didnt heal others because they lacked faith. He gained popularity in 2006 when his church gave $40,000 to members in envelopes with $5, $20, and even $1,000, telling them to spend it kindly on others. Humans are not a trinity. God is a molecular structure that fills all in all. Pastor Steven Furtick (left), of Elevation Church, and Pastor Terrell Murphy, of New Birth Charlotte, pray together before a large crowd at the close of a shared service for the two churches at Cricket Arena in Charlotte, N.C. Furtick and staffers get together in a camper parked next to Providence High as they prepare for a Sunday sermon. Nobody teaches lies and falsehoods all the time. If healing belongs to us, why was Paul never healed? How many people do you bring to GOD every week? He did not disappear. He needed someone to show His nature through, so He made me and you. When false teachers do it, they compound their misquotations with false theology doubling down on irresponsibility with more irresponsibility. If not, Elevation music is just music some great, some good, some average, some not so much. Women received their dead raised to life again. Verses 33-35. We who teach and I include myself are not in the same group as those who listen. Word of Faith teachers twist the Scriptures to say something that God has never said. Consequently, Jesus could give no further confirmation of His identity that they would accept. Changing the verse from did not to could not allows Furtick to make claims about our own belief that arent found in Scripture. The problem is what the people teach, and the damage done to both believers and non-believers alike. In truth, it could be that your father is able to listen to Furtick without a problem, sifting the good from the bad. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright GodWords 2023 - All Rights Reserved. While specific songs might be perfectly fine in their lyrics, are they pointing people back to Elevation church and Steven Furticks teaching? All of this is contrary to Scripture. The biblical perspective is that, without Gods help, we are hopelessly lost. Same thing. So few know the gospel that many are deceived. Does pointing to false teaching make one a Pharisee? Named one of his sons Graham after Charlotte-born evangelist Billy Graham. I tried to reply on our original discussion, but did not allow it. Are you simply discussing one particular theological point because its interesting? Thanks, Thanks for your patience. "The pastor makes everything relate to you," said Maggie Amos, 16, a student at Marvin Ridge High School in Waxhaw, N.C. "He's very modern, saying things in a new way.". Dont you see? Jesus, in no sense, changed forms at the ascension. I heard a bible teacher say once, that we should let the scripture interpret scripture, as it does a better job. Thanks for visiting GodWords! Steven Furtick introduced Pastrix Christine Caine to preach on a Sunday morning at Elevation Church. Your email address will not be published. I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. The only relevant question is whether Steven Furtick responsibly teaches what Jesus taught. Christs sacrifice fulfilled the sacrificial requirement of the law -on behalf of His elect- (dashes for emphasis, I dont know how to italicize in this chat box). If so, then all of the apostles were Pharisees. A man goes to heaven by putting his faith in Jesus and Jesus alone . He called Word of Faith teacher Joyce Meyer the greatest Bible teacher alive today.. Its not a surprise to see that Andrew Wommack agrees with Steven Furtick, as both are Word of Faith teachers. Is Steven Furtick TRYING to pervert the gospel, or has he simply not yet been led into all truth? We know him only as a regular guy, not somebody with any special favors from God, and they were offended in him verse 56. God bless you brother. Please, Thomas: keep studying what God has said in His Word. His claim was that Jesus COULD NOT heal those people because of His unbelief that He had the power, and wanted to use it, but COULD NOT. Pastor Steven Furtick. In the world of the Word of Faith movement, God CANNOT do ANYTHING on earth without us giving Him permission. He committed to going back to the 50+ churches on his district and letting them know not how he had failed, but how he missed the opportunity to do better. Furtick used the word could in Matthew 13:58, yet you said it was heresy, now here the same word could is also used. Thats his conclusion. The implication, of course, is that regular Christians do not. Rather than being God, Jesus to them is a created being. Moreover, Jesus healed people when there was no evidence of faith at all. What gives you the right to say who is or is not of God? Feeling encouraged by a false message, confident when they should be repentant, etc. Joyce Meyer, greatest Bible teacher alive today . If you need clarification to answer it that simply, Ill be happy to clarify but it seems simple: Do you, in any sense, have power over God? Their claim that God appears in different modes is both unbiblical and illogical. Trying to explain this passage, Furtick claims that Jesus said this: No, I am not leaving you. And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lords glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. If a brother or sister in Christ corrects us, rejoice! So He made man, and wo-man, to reflect who He was. We are not all-powerful, or all-knowing, or all-present. Here are a few other special cases that people try to plead: Its clear that you feel comfortable suggesting that the apostle Paul knew less about following Jesus than you do. Nevertheless, I think it is an attitude that should be addressed. The Law said that the wages of sin is death. The problem is that people dont study the Word of God enough to understand. Second, Jesus did not set the Law aside, and He did not break the Law. The best analogy Ive come across and the one that Ive found is not only the most useful but the most accurate, is the term family. No, that is most definitely NOT what Jesus said. But, you are saying he did this by a sovereign act of his will, how can that be, since he specifically said; according to your faith be it unto you, as even your answer to such question, does our faith play a part in how God interacts with us, including healings. Its NOT a definitive answer. Ive fixed it. Yes, we agree that Jesus had the power to heal and that His healing was a combination of compassion for those who suffered and a declaration of His identity as Messiah. I appreciate the tone of our conversation very much. (Furticks church, Elevation, is Southern Baptist. I am not a follower of Furtick, but you ask, Do you see it? Thus, when Mark says Jesus could do no mighty works in Nazareth, He does not mean that their unbelief sapped His power. We are like Him in some ways, but not in others. A moment that youre right, though Testament verses about discipleship, he decided make! 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